>>>>>Joe or Bill, which ever you are tonight.
On losing a debate you result to name calling, brilliant on your part. What a waist you must think you are, nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Happy Trails!
Tom Martin
www.Confederate-flags.org

Hi Tom

I don't know what you are trying to insinuate Joe or Bill which ever you are tonight.
I am Joe the same person that has been posting here in this forum, Bill Adams is the man I have gotten the info from, that gave me the go ahead to copy and paste his e-mail. As for losing a debate what information have you presented & as for the name calling I am going to put you in check right there , I have not called anyone any names. You are the one that is getting mad when the proof had been submitted to you. Or at least that is how I took it by the way you responded to your replies to me. Now that all of that is out of the way. I tried to post a document that has enough info to fill a book - that should convince anyone that the 34th was not at Toms Brook and was not part of the ANV. On page 28, Major Nounnan is mentioned - that action wherein he "collided" with the Yankees took place on Oct 9th when he was trying to get to Witcher in western Va (West Va), the same day as Toms Brook. But it said it was to long. If you would contact me I would be more then glad to share with you the info. It will not let me private message anyone. So if we al got together on the phone or messenger you and I I could call Bill and let you speak with him about all this but truthfully or honestly I don't see you trying to contact me by any other means other then by responding/replying back and forth here.

I will be the first to admit when Im wrong about something. Just as I stated about the 34ths flag to Ken, if the real flag shows up then I will change it. Just like H. Madaus he was not above admitting when he was wrong either. When H. Madaus gave the advise to Bill on making the flag for the 34th, he had never admitted he was ever wrong for the remaining time he had here on earth. I also said to Ken that Bill had made two flags, the 2nd bunting and the 3rd bunting and the museums liked the 2nd bunting flag better.

The 1st arguement I was that the 34ths flag was not captured at Tom's Brook. I showed proof that they were at another place fighting on that day.

2nd that got turned and twisted into a whole new subject about the 34th being part of the ANV and no Eastern Theatre Flags had any such honors, I proved that they were not part of the ANV and that the only time that one could say that they were is when they was at GB under J.E.B. Stuart.

3rd. Went into the 34ths flag being a state flag that they carried. That has eyewitnesses saying it was indeed a battle flag. and then went over to well it had to be a 3rd bunting flag because that is what type they used/had given the year. Bill made both the type 2 & type 3 after getting the advise from Madaus, whom had never admitted he was wrong for doing so. and the museums accepting/liking it as a 34th flag.

On which account do you see me losing a debate when I have proven all accounts. I am pretty much done going back and forth about this the proof is there one just has to accept it not matter if they want to or not.

Thank You
Joe Addair