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Re: MOC "Colours of the Gray" flags captured.

>>>Tom,
As far as I can document the flag (WD#171) was taken in a running
fight near Woodstock, Va.
Joe stated that it was taken from a supply wagon. I have seen no
document that supports his statement.
Ken

Hi Ken
I have searched and shearched for the document of the supply wagon. I have posted a few links here that none of which says any thing about a flag taken from one but it. But a couple of the links do state that all the wagons were captured, along with battle flags. Then I thought about why not look up all the confederate units that fought in the battle of Tom's Brook , but came up with nothing. So if any one can find out that informtion that would be of great help.

I have already proven that the 34th was not at Tom's Brook on Oct. 9 1864.

The WD171 was taken at Tom's Brook and with that said gos back to Edward R. Hanford the private in the 2nd U.S. Cavalry, Company H, during the American Civil War. Born in Allegany County, New York, in 1845, Hanford captured the battle flag of the 32nd Battalion Virginia Cavalry of the Confederate States of America at the Battle of Tom's Brook, Woodstock, Virginia, on 9 October 1864

http://www.civilwarhome.com/cavalrybattles.htm
A month later Custer encountered three brigades of Confederate cavalry under Rosser near Tom's Brook Crossing. Merrit at about the same time struck the cavalry of Lomax and Johnson on the Valley pike, the Federal line of battle extending across the Valley. The fighting was desperate on both sides, being essentially a saber contest. For two hours charges were given and received in solid masses, boot-to-boot, the honors being almost equally divided--the Confederates successfully holding the center while the Federal cavalry pushed back the flanks.
This finally weakened the Confederates, and as both their flanks gave way, Merritt and Custer ordered a charge along their entire line. The retreat of Rosser's force became a panic stricken rout, which continued for twenty-six miles up the Shenandoah valley. Eleven pieces of artillery, three hundred and thirty prisoners, ambulances, caissons, and even the headquarters' wagons of the Confederate commanders were captured by the Federal troops.

http://www.schaeffersite.com/family/Civil_War_in_the_Shenandoah.htm

http://www.schaeffersite.com/family/Civil_War_in_the_Shenandoah.htm#Brook
As General Rosser retreated, he was forcedto leave behind 2 guns that he could ill afford to lose. Munford'sBrigade attempted to make a stand at Pugh's Run but was quicklyforced to retreat from this position. The Confederate retreatcontinued all the way to Columbia Furnace. Rosser lost all of hisguns and wagons and 150 men in this dash for safety. For Lomax theresults were equally disastrous. He lost 5 guns and all of hisrolling stock in his efforts to reach safety. Valley residentssometimes refer to the Battle of Tom's Brook as the "WoodstockRaces." Confederate losses were 20 killed, 50 wounded, and 280missing or captured. The Union losses were 10 killed and 47 wounded.From the losses suffered by both sides, one can see just howone-sided this battle really was.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/5857/5857-h/5857-h.htm
The result was a general smash-up of the entire Confederate line, the retreat quickly degenerating into a rout the like of which was never before seen. For twenty-six miles this wild stampede kept up, with our troopers close at the enemy's heels; and the ludicrous incidents of the chase never ceased to be amusing topics around the camp-fires of Merritt and Custer. In the fight and pursuit Torbert took eleven pieces of artillery, with their caissons, all the wagons and ambulances the enemy had on the ground, and three hundred prisoners. Some of Rosser's troopers fled to the mountains by way of Columbia Furnace, and some up the Valley pike and into the Massamitten Range, apparently not discovering that the chase had been discontinued till south of Mount Jackson they rallied on Early's infantry.

Thank You
Joe Addair

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