Gay, thank you again, this is great info and it brings up another question LOL my grandmother was Sara Jane Altman daughter of Albert & Mary on her grave stone it says born 1880 none of this info mentions her but is says 8 kids 6 live she would be the 6th kid but never made a census roll with her family I guess , had to be she borne same year as 1880 but after census taken then not on 1890 for some reason and married off by 1900 to george stevens (my grandpa) maybe lol . thank you i ordered albert altman army records thanks again for your information

Everett