I can't tolerate the rhetoric and the fiery exchange on this thread. No more "Bloody Bill" controversy or any other discussions of this type are welcome at this time. I'm receiving complaints from a number of old and valued contributors to this sites regarding this thread and my primary job is to maintain the health and resources available on this site.

Please attempt to not engage in controversial discussions that lead to personal insults and derogatory remarks. I would prefer not to block posters or specific phrases or words.

Thanks for your cooperation,

Jim Martin