OK, Grunt; back in the '50s it was still boot camp for us Squids! U S Naval Training Center, San Diego. CO. 330. We had a Chief Bos'n who could have have his own with a Marine Drill instructor! I remember carrying a Springfiled '03 at high port around teh grinder with a bucket on my head for not shaving close enough for him one morning. Whew! Over the 12 weeks I lost about 25 pounds. Stan