Although I believe your intentions were good I think your post may, with good reason, may put some on the defensive.

Thank you, they were. My points were not meant to apply to SHAPE or anyone pn this board in general. Though by the follow up post it would seem that they have made my case for me. That is why David, they are singing to the choir and why that choir will never extend out of one geographic region with some very few exceptions.

Chase.