Stephen, I can go to sites and quote Madison ,Faber and others one the Constitution . You can go to sites and quote Davis and Calhoun. You won't change my mind and I won't change yours. Now we both know that, don't we? About slavery, however it may have been institutionalize, we both know neither one of us would want to be one, don't we?

You can talk about WBTS all you want my friend, but the hate between the abolitionist in New England and the fire brands of the deep South got their war. The thing is we in places like Kentucky and Missouri and Maryland still have the animosity in us. It wasn't like Mississippi against Maine. It was family against family. That Stephen is a Civil War. Period.