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This is an account fromt the book Thise Dirty Rotten Taxes by Chares Adams
"One admirable example from the book, among many, is Adams’ account of the start of the American Civil War. Richly documented and convincingly argued, his Chapter 11—"What on Earth Is the North Fighting For?"—completely dispels the murky puzzlement on the question always left behind by the vacuous accounts taught in modern government-run schools.

The pat answer to that question, of course, is widely known: Lincoln wanted to "preserve the Union." But what does that mean? Why was it so important to keep the South, against its will, inside the federal tent?

Majority opinion in the North in early 1861, as the South was seceding, had been to let Dixie go its own way in peace. Yet the Northern states soon would knowingly choose to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of Northern (and Southern) lives and mountains of treasure. Why?

Perhaps abolition of slavery was a cause great enough to justify, on the scales of the Almighty, the great carnage and tragic waste of the War Between the States. But that was never the motivation of the Northern states. Nor was it that of Lincoln—who, in his first inaugural, went so far as to offer the South his support for a constitutional amendment to guarantee human slavery in the Southern states forever.

So politically at least, the slavery issue at the time was largely beside the point. What was central— non- negotiable between both North and South—was the joint question of taxation and free trade.

Adams notes that for 45 years the South had been suffering under and fighting against Northern high-tariff tax philosophy. Now, however, a new and even more extreme tariff party, the Republicans, had taken control of not only the Union presidency but congress too. And both branches of government were already rushing to impose the Morrill Tariff—a new "Tariff of Abominations."

This new tariff raised duties on iron goods, for instance, to 50 percent. The basic scheme was to prevent English manufacturers from competing in the American markets and thus allow Northern manufacturers—via their government-awarded advantage—to soak all Americans and especially the agricultural South.

"In every measure that the ingenuity of avarice could devise," wrote a Southern author in 1866, expressing the view of the now-defunct Confederacy, "the North [had] exacted from the South a tribute, which it could only pay at the expense and in the character of an inferiour in the Union."

So, after decades of such treatment and with the imminent prospect of its even more extreme escalation, the Southern states had had enough. On March 11, 1861, seven days after Lincoln was inaugurated, the Confederate Constitution was adopted.

Almost immediately Northern opinion—as reflected in the editorial columns of Northern newspapers—began turning sharply toward war. Why?

Consider the New York Times. "For months [its] leading economic editor had been writing that secession was no threat to Northern prosperity and commerce, and inaction was the best course for the government," notes Adams. "But on March 22 and 23, 1861, he reversed himself with a demand that the federal government ‘At once shut up every Southern port, destroy its commerce, and bring utter ruin on the Confederate states…’"

What Northern newspapers had suddenly grasped, says Adams, was that the new Confederate constitution had created what was essentially a free-trade zone in Dixie, one which promised to destroy utterly the tariff-based economic hegemony Northern commercial interests had long enjoyed not only over the South, but all Americans. Such a bloody serious development could not be permitted to occur.

A million casualties later, it was not.

Charles Adams’ work rescues from obscurity hosts of important but little-known tax rebellions. From antiquity through the European Enlightenment to the resurgent Gestapo that operates inside modern-day Germany’s tax bureaucracy, he engagingly maps the darkness inside the belly of the statist beast."

I dont know where you read about the south being poverty stricken. As is today I believe there are rich and poor as there was in 1860. Ther were those with money wealth and slaves and those with not. Money drives all wars. Take a quote from a notable Georgian Mark Anthony Cooper, a businessman, described the war as "the capital of one nation seeking to control the capital of another." That is probably the best observation made during that time. I dont know what you have read or what your driving argument is?

Lets try to nail this down.
If the North had more wealth they would not need the South. there would be no need for any bloodshed. Even the most rabid abolitionist would help slaves flee to the North and eventually when the South lost enough slaves it would have to find some alternative to slavery. In any case there would have been no need for war.

If the South had more wealth then why secession. would it not have been cheaper to stay in the Union. Wars are destructive and cost lots of money. Most officers from the south donated thier own money to get units started and fund them thoughout the war. If I was a planter I would not want to risk a war. There was also in February 1861 a Confederate Peace Commission sent to talk with Lincoln prior to the war. He would not speak with them. Was there a profit to be made during this war.

The Confederates had to fight with so little. Hardly any shoes, clothes and food. Pestilence and disease was everywhere. That is why Confederate soldiers are admired is because they fought for 4 hard years with hardy nothing to sustain them. So what did they fight and die for? Was it wealth, popularity, planters debt, Confederate Bonds?..?!?
I think only one word can describe what they fought for.

PATRIOTISM

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