As a matter of fact Sally, I live in Oklahoma. where those "civilized" people live. Now understand I have never heard a Cherokee say this, but I have heard many Creek say they hate the term "civilized" being placed on them, as if all Indians are uncivilized except for them. Also if you read about the French/Indian Wars you will find the Cherokee a fearless fighter and as all Indians he had no problems torturing his prisoners to death. Those Indians I said were cannibals are "civilized" to day also.