Dave, sounds like your people are the same as my moms side. Were they Quaker?
I never knew any people more humble or nicer than my moms people were. The only thing they didnt like change, they liked living the old ways. My dads side were h____ raisers tho, the french and indian blood i guess, they ran gun powder up and down the Missouri river during the cival war.
Dave, maby I ask if you are by chance a relative of Upton
Hayes?