BTW, I heard a D-Day veteran talking about that day through his tears, about pushing bodies aside as they waded ashore, and stepping over other of his buddies going up the beach. You could her his tears. Its why he said he did not like to talk about it. I've done that in training, but no one was shooting at me. One in five casualties on June 6, 1944 were sailors; about 2000. God bless all their brave souls. I imagine some had heard their grandads talk of Gettysburg, Antietam, Fredericksburg, Vicksburg, etc. Stan