Great post Doyle. I can see this discussion not going much further than the exact same point it was (on the Tennessee Board) when Dr. Hodge stepped in to squelch it. At this point I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what Phil is asking, alluding to, defending, or condemning. I think we have pretty well exhausted the known documented facts of the matter. It seems to me that Phil is looking for psychic intervention. I can't see what would settle the issue for him without being able to question those that were actually there. I'll go back to my pepper and gnat poop comparison.

Keith