I believe there was a long-lasting deep-seeded dis-union movement in America. This string (AND OTHERS) was to point to a period of time, the beginning of a special period, and the events and tone of Southern America. The 1830s was the turning point- and the period of change continued until 1860. So yes, the men I referenced do apply to the period I am researching.
At this time I don't care about what Lee thought, and men like him, he wasn't a politician or involved in legislation, trade, money or banks. The good men you allude to were not players in the American secession movement of 1830-60. Nor do you seem to understand what argument I'm building. Normally I would enjoy debated these little details with you but I'm on another quest which I'd rather do. If you want to help me, find who was the leader(s) of the secession movement, when did it start, what were their goals, who were their allies and where did the money come from. I don't have all the answers yet, but I have some.
This is about finding the deeper history of the secession, not about proving who was right or wrong.
When I started this, I had my preconceived ideas, and thought I already knew the answers, but I've been totally surprised by what I've been able to puzzle together.
I'll share one fact right now. The first secession phase starting in 1860- although historic documentation proves the protection of slavery was the political platform, it clearly was not the purpose or goal.