Ok, I get what you're saying. It's true. We still wonder why we have to celebrate Lincoln and King. We may see some things they did were worth notice, but in our little world, they don't rate the 5 stars. I can see where those in the upper region may not hold Lee as dear as we do. I do believe he was held in high regard by many 'up there'. True, Stonewall was another example of living what they taught. Lee's service before the 'War' and after as an example to follow is not a bad thing.