Thanks Cump. William Weatherford (Red Eagle)was Creek. His 3rd wife was hubby's 3 or 4 x GGrandfather, George Stiggens, sister. George and his siblings were allowed to stay because their Father, Joseph, petitioned the Government to allow it because he was white and from Virginia. Joseph's wife,George's mother, was Nancy "Haw" Grey and all of the record indicate she was the neice of the last chief of the Natchez and that's the tribe she was from. You know how it went from there, all were listed on the Creek Rolls with no 'other' designation so it was assumed for years that all were Creek.
It's kind of neat, in one of those strange ways, that the Seminole who was cousin to both George and Weatherford was really Creek and just managed to survive the Massacre at Horshoe Bend. Ask a kid, who is studying Florida history who Billy or William Powell was and they think maybe an astronaut, ask about Osceola, they say, explorer? Yep, their knowledge of the world around them and how it came to be is lacking most of the pertinent information.
This search for any link to an earlier Helton has hit the wall with every researcher we've contacted. We know they are on the Creek Roll but that Roll was done way after the 'Removals'. During the time Jackson was trying to kill off anyone but a white person, many of them tried to 'pass' to stay in the Southeast. It seems Henry J and Membrance were lucky.
From the early Henry County, Alabama records, we just know they showed up one day and stayed. Then when that county had been divided they were in Covington County and seemed to be doing very well according to the 1860 Ag Census until the war started. Went downhill from there. When I was in Cherokee, NC a few years back, I talked to a couple of very helpful people at the museum and the resource center and they had Henry and Membrance on the 'roll' but it was just what we had. They said they must have been able to verify something to be allowed on the roll. Their Indian names may have done it. I think I found Membrance in one of the old towns under his Indian name but I don't know if that name was kind of common or not. The people in Cherokee did say that there was no reason to doubt the validity of the claim that they were full blood Cherokee. I dunno, just seems like the mother ship dropped em off and never returned for them.