Cuz They are my kin so I can speak ill of them. All my kin started in Virginia, those who came south became farmers, not plantation owners, and several generations could not read or write, my great-great grandmother signed her husbands pension application with an "X". Her son who was captured at Nashville and spent the rest of the war at Camp Douglas became very well off, owning several companies. The Holcombe's who left Virginia and went to Connecticut became Lawyers, Doctors and Polticians, much more. I was the first in my branch of the tree to finish college. But I still can't spell and my grammer is very bad. I am trying now to research the Northern branches. My books tell me that no matter how its spelled, we all are kin. Maybe I can find your Grandmother in my books, that would be cool.