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Re: When It Might Have Mattered

"You have claimed that arming slaves to be soldiers was already standard operating procedure throughout the South. If that is true why the need for any of this:"

Really where did I claim that???? I have said all along that slaves were in combat in combat roles for the South, and to so degree in fair numbers. I have posted the numbers and the sources. nothing more or nothing less. Read the ORS references

"All the above prove unquestioanably that armed slaves as soldiers, ifnit was being done, was extremely rare and extremely controversiaon and it took extraordinary action by davis and Lee and others in February March and April 1865, to even start the process, and it was done over very strong opposition."

This do not prove your extremely rare statement, it simply proves the official position. The opposition was from where-- Virginia. Thank you.

"Now, then you ask me to post the provisions of the bill which you yourself post!!!"

Wanted to make sure we were reading the same documents. Now that we are certain we are on the same page you still cannot prove the CSA leadership was only interested in maintaining slavery.

“The men who passed this legislation could have passed a bill that promised freedom to any slave willing to stand up and fight for his own freedom, and for southern Independence. The slave population was in the millions and was almost half the entire population of the South , in some places they were even a majority. The manpower was there.”

They did see below.

“If the bill was needed in 1865, and clearly by then Lee and Davis were begging for passage, it was even mnore needed in 1863 when the subject was first brought up, and whennit might have done the mosty good. Had strong measures been taken then in 1863 it would have been more effective.
clearly they were offered a choice, exchange emancipation for securing independence and the choice they selected, even in the last months was no emancipation. “

Really I think there was still plenty of fight left in the CSDA armies in ‘63. History proves that .
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Still you haven't proven the war was about slavery and the CSA lead ship refused to arm slaves to maintain that institution. You are simply putting your spin on what you think you have read. The document does not say that at all.

Regardless of all your continual rhetoric this was passed:

“The Confederate Army and Davis managed to overcome the opposition by the Virginia legislature and the Confederate Congress to emancipation by adding to army regulations that slaves could fight if they so desired and if their masters submitted a written approbation that the slave could be freed after the war.”

Now there you are plain as day fight and earn your freedom. Is that pretty much what Grant and Lincoln did?? The North didn’t even give slaves their freedom until the 13th amendment was passed. Still practicing the old double standard, or is this more smoke and mirrors???

When are you going to post the document proving the South went to war only to maintain slavery. You seem to keep dodging that question. How about the Northern war resolutions surely they say we are fighting solely to free the salves????? How about something from Davis, Lee, Grant, Lincoln??? Any of those would be proof enough for me. Surely you can find another document to put your version of history to.

GP

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