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Re: Charleston's View -- January 1865

George, let'see;

In 1861, Ewell told lee either emancipate and arm the slave, or we will not win our bid for Independence. Davis did not.

In 1863-1864 Cleburne and a group of officers signed a petition to Davis, saying emancipate and arm slaves, or give up the dream of independence. davis chose not to act.

In late 1864, Lee brought the subject up: we need to emancipate and arm the slaves or we can kiss independence goodbye. Davis, as this quote so clearly points out, said, there is no need".

Lee continues with his request, writes anti-emancipation congressmen like Hunter, saying if we don't arm and emancipate our slaves ourselves, the enemy will surely do so and turn then against us. Time is almost out. Davis finally gets the message, Hunter does not. Independence is completely lost because of the choices Davis and Hunter made having to do with emancipation and arming the slaves.

Now George, Davis does not have to ever say openly I love slavery more than I love my independence, --which Hunter and other congressmen basicly did admit--. As we all know, acting speak louder than words and so do choices.

Davis had ample warning, and plenty of time to work on a plan of arming and emancipating slaves, and chose not do do anything until February 1865. His choice cost the South her Independence.

They still had their slaves when the whole thing collapsed around their heads. What they did NOT have was their Independence.

What you hold on to the longest as the boat is sinking is the thing you prize the most, the thing you least want to part with. The CSA congress did NOT arrange for emancipation of slaves in exchange for using them as soldiers, not even a small portion of them. They finally allowed them so serve, they give in that far but no further, and would not give any ground on emancipation for the black soldier in bondage. That was their bottom line. They would go no further. There would be NO emancipation of slaves in exchange for soldiering, even it it cost them independence. That was the terms they were given as the reason for the urgent need, and they said no.

Davis himself only gave in a month earlier, despite years of warning from top military. The priority for the CSA politicians was: keep the slaves secure, take a risk on independence, it was NOT risk the slaves and keep the independence. Words may decieve, but actions speak, and choices reveal.

Does it have to be handwritten and read aloud by Davis and all near 80 Congressmen, under oath, in a public decree, and then sealed in an official document, and notarized under the CSA coat of arms, with six Supreme Court justices as co-signing witnesses, for you to see the choice they made?

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