James, I don't know, you would have to ask Jim. Since my heart attack I have been of little use to Jim. He keeps being my friend in spite of it.

I also want to clear something up about my response to the original post in this thread. If I thought for one second either myself or the historian involved could be swayed in our views I would not mind typing my fingers off but I see no hope of that happening so I choose to not be drawn into debates that will prove or solve nothing and only lead to more frustration and aggravation. My old ticker doesn't need any help at doing funny things without getting into those kind of issues.

That said, I admit I also used the verse out of context. It is of course Paul's letter to Timothy and the church and I understand it to mean basically don't split hairs over debatable issues as it does not edify anyone but rather leads to more grief. I apologize to all for using God's Holy Word to further my personal ideals.