Allen, #1, love your reply, yes, I knew, it wasn't added, until the 50's, my use, was a sideways expression, of dessent, Destroying, life and property, the way grant, and sherman, did, always seemed, to me a perfect example, of why the SOUTH, adopted the stance, we had to take, due to the RUTHLESSNESS, and DISRESPECT, the north, held, our way of life!-------all, but slavery, we had the best ideas, of how a country, should conduct itself, and todays times, tend to prove out that statement!--Our COUNTRY, is heading for hell-in-a-handbasket------and efforts are being made, but are they enough?-----anyway, I'm Southern Born and Southern bred, and when I die,(if I choose to!) I'll beSouthern dead!!!!!!!