Tracie, I am very sorry, but I have packed about half my gear and am leaving for Tennessee and the Shiloh reenactment on Wed the 21 and will not be back until April 5th or so because of nescessary family issues. Sorry. BTW, here is a shout out to the two who are hijacking this thread to discuss the reasoning for the start of the war. I have my own views regarding this and it definityly tends toward Mr Hiles view, but I have enough good manners passed to me through my family to refrain from discussing it or responding on this thread. A request if you please Gentelmen. Find you own thread to discuss this. The conversation you two are participating in does nothing to forward the issue in this thread. You only satisify your own personal need to berate each other. Please continue to do so, just on an approiate thread if you do not mind.