Carolyn,

We've tried. The buffer time between posts has slowed it down to a point where debate has been stagnated. I truly am sorry for the administrators who have to read through all of our post, especially the really long-winded ones. Debate has been diluted by "string drift" and "hijacking post". What's left is a lot of non-history or non-related banter.

I've tried to present a semblance of historical post, and have contributed (started post) with points, references, and artifacts. And many others have really tried too, but there is an element of others who contribute 1-5% history and the rest of their post are meant to derail or divert attention. I truly live for the debate and can't wait for a subject to dive into, but for a few lately, there really hasn't been much.

I remember your post, you haven't been here for awhile, and I always enjoyed and respected your contributions. You started some very good discussions. That's what it takes, someone to step up and contribute.

Because of our egos, emotions, and hatred the board has lost its appeal. But because of our passions and since of honor, the board, in the past, was a great magnet to those who wanted learn and teach. When we did that, the board was really a blessing. I'll admit, I've done all the above, I'm human.

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David Upton