Jim, my family owned slaves. Well one or two. CSM soldiers murdered my g-g-grandfather and raped his wife, and killed his slave. I have no problem so to speak with a Confederate philosophy as such. It was the way some policies were implement. I consider myself a Southern Unionist not a Yank. No offense to Frank, who seems a good man, Mike who's humor I love or Collin, who is a personal friend and welcome in my home anytime. I think that you understand my position.