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We have conflicting statements. I find nothing in the ORs re the subject. I would suggest the next step would be to query Bearss as to his sources. Perhaps, Terry Winschel, present Historian at the Vickburg National Military Park could comment.

Sergeant Osborn H. Oldroyd of Company E, 20th Ohio Infantry, was also there, and he recorded:

By noon, Gregg saw an opportunity to cross the stream to the east of the dazed Federals, sweep behind the six enemy guns and put what he believed was the entire force into the bag. The 10th/30th Tennessee moved down the Gallatin Road, then to the left of the 50th Tennessee, which had moved southeast from its original position. Both units were poised on the edge of the woodland facing toward the southeast. The 3rd Tennessee moved to the old 50th Tennessee position, where the 7th Texas linked to its right flank. The 41st Tennessee moved out of Raymond to the graveyard in a support position. Gregg planned for his fellow Texans to begin the assault en echelon to the right, with the 50th and the 10th/30th Tennessee charged with capturing De Golyer's guns. The Confederate attack began with the 7th Texas pushing the Federal skirmishers back to the creek.

The 68th Ohio fled from the scene, leaving the 20th Ohio standing alone. By then, the 23rd Indiana's officers had discovered that they were alone and were dressing ranks when the 3rd Tennessee burst into their line of battle. Frantic minutes passed while the Hoosiers fell back across the creek, rallied in the open field and dressed to the right of the 20th Illinois. The 7th Texas continued forward and actually crossed the creek to the east of the 20th Ohio, which it engaged at 100 yards' range. Colonel Force ran to the troops on his right from the 20th Illinois, which had not fully crossed the field. He commanded them to move to the creek because the Confederates had begun to reoccupy it and were flanking him. Soon thereafter the Illinois commander was killed, and the regiment withdrew across the field and knelt behind the fence.

[These two paragraphs were taken from an article written by Al Goodman, Jr. and originally appeared in the September 1997 issue of America's Civil War magazine. I believe he was quoting Oldroyd. Battle of Raymond] http://www.historynet.com/battle-of-raymond.htm

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From Edwin C. Bearss, The Campaign for Vicksburg, Vol. II, pp. 494/5

"Dennis' men, now well rested, grabbed their rifle-muskets and ran. Fortunately for the Union, most dashed forward not backward, taking shelter in the trench-like creek bed. From there they blazed away at the oncoming Texans, stopping the right flank companies in their tracks. But the left flank companies kept coming, and the men of the 20th Ohio, just to the east of the road, realized with something approaching panic that the 68th Ohio, which was supposed to be on the brigade's right flank, had run in the opposite direction. There was nothing in front of the left wing of the Texan's line expect a few skirmishers."

The accompanying map of the action, p. 502 (12-1:30 PM), shows the 68th Ohio retreating to the SW with the Confederates streaming through the opening in Dennis's brigade line left empty by the 68th.

The following map, p. 506, 1:30 - 4:00 PM, shows the 68th now north of the creek to the center rear of the 2nd Brigade's line, apparently in reserve.

Unfortunately, Bearss does not source his statement, nor the maps. I would assume he took it partially from Oldroyd, 20th Ohio.

It would be interesting to find the source of his two maps.

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Warren E. Grabau, Ninety-Eight Days, A Geographer's View of the Vicksburg Campaign, Map 38, Confederate High Tide, 1245 PM, shows the 68th had fallen back out of the woods from their initial position, though, not as that as dramatic as Bearss' map. Smith's brigade, to their right, has similarly fallen back.

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O.R.-- SERIES I--VOLUME XXIV/1 [S# 36]
MAY 12, 1863.--Engagement at Raymond, Miss.
No. 2.--Return of Casualties in the Union forces engaged at Raymond, Miss., May 12, 1863.

THIRD DIVISION.

Maj. Gen. JOHN A. LOGAN.

First Brigade.

Brig. Gen. JOHN E. SMITH.

20th Illinois 3 14 4 64 .... 1 86
31st Illinois .... 1 2 4 .... .... 7
45th Illinois .... .... 2 14 .... 1 17
124th Illinois .... 1 .... 9 .... .... 10
23d Indiana 1 15 2 74 2 21 115
Total First Brigade 4 31 10 165 2 23 235

Second Brigade

Brig. Gen. ELIAS S. DENNIS, Col. Mortimer D. Leggett.

30th Illinois .... .... .... 1 .... .... ??
20th Ohio .... 10 2 56 .... .... ??
68th Ohio .... .... .... 5 .... .... ?? Col. Robert K. Scott
78th Ohio .... .... .... 11 .... .... 11
Total Second Brigade .... 10 2 73 .... .... 85

Third Brigade.

Brig. Gen. JOHN D. STEVENSON

8th Illinois 1 7 1 18 .... .... 27
81st Illinois .... 1 2 7 .... 5 15
7th Missouri 2 7 2 55 .... 7 73
52 d Ohio(*) .... .... .... .... .... .... ....

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