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Re: Who favored Secession...Slave or Non-slave own

Excellent, plus it allows us to look at 1856 presidential election results. Now I don't have to reply on memory, which is faulty. The other Alabama county carried by Bell was Greene, in the heart of the western Black Belt. The county profile included large numbers of men who fit the Whig profile - planters, bankers and others involved with commerce and the cotton trade.

When asked to vote for delegates to the secession convention, most of the Alabama counties which provided heavy support for the Bell-Everett ticket voted for "straight-out" candidates. In other words, immediate secessionists. There's a relationship, because secession really was on the ballot in that election.

We discussed the low vote for the Constitutional Union Party in Alabama's Winston County, the state's celebrated citadel of Unionism. As you noted, Bell-Everett received a grand total of forty votes from Winston County citizens. That alone should demonstrate that there is no relationship between voting for the Constitutional Union ticket and being against secession. Most of the hard-core Unionists in Winston County must have voted for Democrats, either Breckinridge or Douglas.

Let's look at the other so-called "Avalanche" counties where the Democrats routinely defeated Whigs by overwhelming margins. All are located in the northern third of the state, stretching from the Georgia border to the Mississippi line. In each county the Bell-Everett ticket in 1860 received about the same percentage of the total vote as Millard Filmore got in 1856. No matter what the new party label happened to be, voters recognized the candidates as being Whigs and voted accordingly.

The real action took place within the Democratic Party, which split over slavery. A vote for Breckinridge-Lane could be interpreted by the public as a vote for the expansion of slavery. Democrats excoriated Senator Douglas for his position on slavery in the territories, which Southerners called "Squatter Sovereignty". In their view, Douglas undermined the rights of citizens of any states to bring thier slaves into the territories. Breckinridge upheld that right, so his wing of the Democratic Party was known as Southern Rights Democrats. The Douglas wing was called the National Democratic Party.

As noted, Bell-Everett votes are painfully small but match historical pattern. Breckinridge carried all of these counties, but Douglas ran a strong second in many of them, including Winston. These are counties where a certain element accepted the "national" position on slavery, which was that residents of a U.S. territory could vote to exclude slavery prior to statehood. Based on Winston County, we are much more likely to find unconditional Unionists (like their hero, Andrew Jackson) in these counties.

You'll have to scroll down - for some reason my tables insert a number of empty rows before you actually see the table.








































Blount CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,2510565 Bell698 Breckinridge488 Douglas
18568070537 Filmore770 Buchanan
Calhoun CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18602,76513364 Bell2,347 Breckinridge54 Douglas
18562,57317443 Filmore2,130 Buchanan
Cherokee CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18602,46621527 Bell1,706 Breckinridge223 Douglas
18561,99223455 Filmore1,537 Buchanan
DeKalb CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,25516204 Bell849 Breckinridge202 Douglas
18561,03014130 Filmore900 Buchanan
Fayette CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,69521359 Bell1,299 Breckinridge37 Douglas
18561,23935440 Filmore 799 Buchanan
Jackson CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18602,45505130 Bell1,760 Breckinridge565 Douglas
18561,8870597 Filmore1,790 Buchanan
Jefferson CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,15321245 Bell831 Breckinridge77 Douglas
185689322196 Filmore697 Buchanan
Marion CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,24516197 Bell986 Breckinridge62 Douglas
185689822198 Filmore 700 Buchanan
Marshall CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,36912165 Bell441 Breckinridge763 Douglas
18569720989 Filmore883 Buchanan
Randolph CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18602,64421567 Bell1,734 Breckinridge343 Douglas
18562,14332683 Filmore1,460 Buchanan
St. Clair CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18601,37712174 Bell963 Breckinridge240 Douglas
18569010983 Filmore818 Buchanan
Walker CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
186085212103 Bell446 Breckinridge303 Douglas
185659524146 Filmore449 Buchanan
Winston CountyTotal%Former Whigs Democratic Party
18603901040 Bell203 Breckinridge147 Douglas
18562350614 Filmore221 Buchanan

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