Let's see; being raised in the shadow of Kennesaw Mountain, and having worked on my uncle's farm when younger, I suppose I qualify on both counts, George. BTW, Cump; did you freeze in the latest cold spell? My nephew in Southern Indiana had no power for several days, but made it through OK with a generator. I notice up in Maine they set a new cold record at 50 below. I'll bet that chaps Al Gore's ---. LOL Stan