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W.F. Guthrie, Guttery, maybe from Parker Co TX

Linda Temple Acrey,
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Stab number 1 of 2 in my attempt to identify this "W.F. Guthrie" in question.
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re: W.F. Guthrie, Guttery, Gutterey, Guttry
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i.e., "W.F. Guthrie" of Lt. N. Carson's Company D of Bourland's Regiment.
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Please help identify the "Private W.F. Guthrie" cited in the following paragraph. ... The proofs are
presented beneath the asterisks. Question is: Do I have the right guy?
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Editor's note: Towards the end of the Civil War, all sort of kids, older men, men who wanted to serve the Southern Cause yet were hesitant to go to the Eastern front (i.e., chicken hawks), men who wanted to abide by the Confederate Conscription law, and misfits WERE SENT to patrol the North and West Frontier in the ten military units listed near the bottom of this posting.
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Guttery, Guthrie, W.F., Private in Lt. N. Carson’s Co ‘D’ of Bourland’s Regt, CSA; one Wm. F. Guthrie in Darnell’s 18th TX Cav, Co A (most recruits from the Johnson Co TX area); one W. Guthrie, b-1840 AR in 1860 Parker Co TX cen p451 and Wm. Guttery, b-1840 AR in 1870 Lamar Co TX cen p381. ”... W. F. Guthrie, who was one of the 15 or 16 men with Lt. Carson when surrounded by Indians ... in the Oct 23, 1864 Battle of Elm Creek in Young Co TX.” per McConnell’s THE WEST TEXAS FRONTIER.
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1860 Parker Co TX cen p451
482-485 .. T. Guthrie 54 VA
........... ? Z. Guthrie (fe) 51 IL
...........W. Guthrie 20 AR
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1860 Parker Co TX cen p457
558-562 ... J. Guthrie 49 VA
............J. Guthrie (fe) 54 VA
........... E. Copeland (fe) 50 VA
............J. Copeland 19 AR
559-563 ... E. Holcomb 30 IL
............E. (Guttery) Holcomb (fe) 24 AR
............T. Holcomb 3 TX
............M. Holcomb (fe) 2 TX
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1870 Lamar Co TX cen p381
...............Enoch Holcomb 44 IL
...............Elvira (Guttery) Holcomb 34 AR
...............T.H. Holcomb 13 TX
...............M.L. Holcomb (fe) 11 TX
...............J.M. Holcomb 9 TX
...............Joseph Holcomb 7 TX
...............Nancy A. Holcomb 6 TX
...............James Holcomb 3 TX
...............Wm. J. Holcomb 1 TX
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1870 Lamar Co TX cen p381
263-265 ... Thomas Guttery 63 VA
............Zelpha Guttery (fe) 62 IL
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1870 Lamar Co TX cen p381
266-266 ... William Guttery 30 AR
............Eizabeth (fe) 25 MO
............Eli 8 TX
............Columbus 5 TX
............Jackson 1 TX
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1870 Lamar Co TX cen p381
267-267 ... John Guttery 54 VA
........... Elizabeth Guttery [Copeland] (fe) 57 VA
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1880 Lamar Co TX cen p201
256-261 ... William Guttery 40 AR
............Elizabeth (fe) 35 MO
............Eli 17 TX
............Columbus 15 TX
............Jackson 12 TX
............William 8 TX
............Mary Ellen (fe) 5 TX
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1880 Lamar Co TX cen p11
182-191 ... John Guttery 57 VA
............Elizabeth Copeland (sister) 67 VA
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1900 Lamar Co TX cen p117
369-372 ... Eli H. Gutterey 38 unk unk unk
............Malissa V. Gutterey 33 TN
............Charley L. Gutterey 15 TX
............Rufus D. Gutterey 15 TX
............James K.P. Gutterey 9 TX
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1910 Lamar Co TX cen p207
212-256-248 ... Columbus C. Guttry 45 TX USA USA
................Catherine E. Guttry (fe) 40 TX KY TN
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I think the "T. Guthrie, b-1806 VA, wife Z., b-1809 IL" and the "J. Guthrie with Copelands" found in the 1860 Parker Co TX cen are the SAME FAMILIES as the “Guttery” families found in the 1870 Lamar Co
TX cen.
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Notice that William Guttery resides between his father and his uncle in the 1870 Lamar census. William Guttery lived near the older John Guttery and sister E. Copeland.
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Elvira (Guttery) Holcomb, Birth Date: 16 Sept 1836 Place: Bentonville - Benton county, Arkansas Burial Place: Mt. Vernon cemetery - Paris, Texas Death Date: 26 July 1928 Place: Paris - Lamar county, Texas.
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Married Enoch Holcomb, Date: 15 July 1829 Place: Monroe county, Illinois Burial Place: Mt. Vernon
cemetery - Paris, Texas Death Date: 11 Feb 1903 Place: Paris - Lamar county, Texas
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Thus far, I have found 30 soldiers of Bourland's Regt., that were not listed in the archival records. ..I expect to find about 20 more men who served in Bourland's Regt.
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http://www.bourlandcivilwar.com/AdditionalSoldiers.htm
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Question: Is this the W.F. Guthrie of Lt. N. Carson's Company D of Bourland's Regt?
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Patti, prochette@Juno.com
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The following is found on my web page:
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http://www.bourlandcivilwar.com/ArizonaBrigade.htm
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In summation, below is a listing of the Confederate units that patrolled North Texas and Southern Indian Territory during the last 1-1/2 years of the Civil War.
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1) Wells' Battalion, Companies A and B patrolled between Fort Arbuckle, I.T. and Fort Belknap, Young Co TX: Scanland's Company A, most recruits from the Montague Co TX area; Good's-Gillett's Company B; initially Wells' Battn was recruited from the Panola Co TX area (581 men)
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2) Pyron's 2d TX Cav, Co H, 2d Arizona Brigade, commanded by Capt. J.M. Roark (158 men)
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3) LeKoester's Co E, Baird's-Showalter's 4th TX Cav, 4th Arizona Brigade (119 men)
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4) McCord's 46th Frontier Cavalry (1,273 men)
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5) Martin's 5th TX Cavalry Partisan Rangers (812 men) .... on Feb 10, 1865 absorbed some of Bourland's Regt. while most of Bourland's Regt was then commanded by J.R. Diamond.
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6) Brush Battalion, commanded by Major J.R. Diamond. (496 men) ... J.R. Diamond was later in Bourland's Regt.
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7) Baylor's Ladies' Rangers (remnants of), Pyron's 2d TX Cav, Co I, 2d Arizona Brigade (164 men in Dec 1863)
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8) J. B. "Buck" Barry's Frontier TX Cavalry ... Organized: on 5/15/62 Mustered Out: 5/26/65.... (1,158 men) ... but from about May 1864 to May 1865 this unit was also known as the 8th TX Cavalry Battn (483 men)
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9) Bourland's Border Regiment Cavalry (625 men listed in the American Civil War Research Database of Duxbury MA and ....831 men listed in the National Park Service Sailors and Soldiers database.)
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10) Plus the 31 Texas State militia companies raised in 1864 commanded by Quayle then Throckmorton

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Patti, prochette@Juno.com

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