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The difference is the war was fought in the South. Much like WW2 was fought in France, hence they had a higher civilian casualty rate than civilians on US soil where there was no fighting. The few times Confederates came North, the same actions happen, they however were not able to spend the same amount of time in the North. After the battle of Antietam there were thousands of Confederate stragglers, some of them officers. You might notice that all those Marylanders never rose up by the thousands when Lee launched his two invasions of the North. Wonder why. Confederate troops and officers were doing a little bummer action of their own. Lee to his credit tried to put a stop to that activity. John R. Jones a division commander was sent to Winchester to round up the stragglers, he found the task impossible. " It is disgusting and heartsickeening to witness this army of stragglers,"

I believe that William Clarke Quantrill was a commissioned officer of the Confederate Army. Remember his invasion of Yankee Land? Lawrence Kansas? Numbers on those killed, a sizeable amount unarmed, range from 150 to 193. How much money stolen? Property burned, some estimate at 2.5 million Civil War dollars. All this information is contained in the book The Devil Knows How To Ride, a mostly sympathetic view of Quantrill.

Which brings me to John Hunt Morgan and the longest raid of the Civil War. He cut a swath from Kentucky into Indiana and Ohio, "liberating horses and supplies as he went." The people he liberated from called it stealing.. He in fact liberated a horse from one of my friends ancestors in Bevis Ohio.

Now back to Lee's second invasion of the North. In June before that, Jubal Early rode into Gettysburg and levy a tribute of 7,000 pounds of bacon. 1,200 pounds of sugar, 1,000 pounds of salt, 600 pounds of coffee, 60 barrels of flour, 10 barrels of onions, 10 barrels of whiskey, 1,000 pairs of shoes, 500 hats 05 5,000 cash. Jube moved on to York, his tribute there 28,000 pounds of baked bread, 3,500 pounds of sugar, 1,650 pounds of coffee, 32,000 pounds of beef, 2,000 pairs of shoes and no less than 1000,000 in cash. If these demands were not met, Ole Jube would turn his men lose on the town. They only coughed up 28,000 dollars and 1,500 shoes. However it mollified Early. He also burned the furnace and rolling mill of Thad Stevens.

One might also point out that Black Union soldiers and Confederates soldiers on several occasions fought each other under no quarter. Battle of the Crater and elsewhere. George, I remember reading about Union officers being killed by black union soldiers for trying to defend the lives of Confederate prisoners. Ah those evil Yankees.

My final point though believe me, I could mention many, many more. The Saint Albans Raid. Benett Young had been captured in John Hunt Morgan's 1863 raid in Ohio, but escaped to Canada in the fall of that year. Morgan went to the south, where he proposed Canada-based raids on the Union as a means of building the Confederate treasury and forcing the Union army to protect their northern border as a diversion. Young was commissioned as a lieutenant and returned to Canada, where he recruited other escaped rebels to participate in the October 19, 1864 raid on St. Albans, Vermont, a quiet town 15 miles (25 km) from the Canadian border.

Young and two others checked into a local hotel on October 10, saying that they had come from St. John's in Canada for a "sporting vacation." Every day, two or three more young men arrived. By October 19, there were 21 cavalrymen assembled; just before 3:00 p.m. the group simultaneously staged an armed robbery of the three banks in the town. They announced that they were Confederate soldiers and stole a total of $208,000. As the banks were being robbed, eight or nine of the Confederates held the townspeople prisoner on the village green as their horses were stolen. One townsperson was killed and another wounded. Young ordered his troops to burn the town down, but the four-ounce bottles of Greek fire they had brought failed to work, and only one shed was destroyed. Think when that Greek fire burnt down the town, innocent women and children could have been killed, George? Remember they got the ok for this Raid from high Confederate sources.

Now George you can say, that civilian lives, money and property in the South was destroyed at a much, much, much, higher rate. Here's the surprise George, I agree with you 100%. Oh yeah, know why, because that's where the war was being fought. I don't think Hancock, Gibbon, Thomas or any others in the high command just wanted to kill and murder to pass the time. But with Hard War being inaugurated many civilians suffered, Jackson and Forrest also believed in Hard War, not murder and rapine, though men being men, had they been in the North you would see more of it there, than you did. Once again the South suffered because that's where the war was fought. We were the Big Dog, had you been the Big Dog, we would be the ones saying "it just ain't right." Oh yeah, Remember Knoxville, Amigo.

Chase.

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