Chase,

I don't recall anyone saying anything about a noble savage except you and Paul. I never said it. I am just saying that the whites came with the intention of taking, no matter what the cost to the Indians. The Indians fought with what they had and did a darn good job. The murders rapes and so forth that went on during the Indian wars, what was the very first instance? Nobody knows, but it was enough to create a hate for both races. The white man actually took it to a higher level, but they were not savages? You know, because of the idiots in Washington, we may end up protecting what we have today from foreign invaders, will we be savages or will we fight with nerf sticks and kidskin gloves?

It is the same story for the cultures of Central and South America, except this time the Spanish were doing the taking. Great civilizations gone, destroyed, and as always, the root problem is greed.

GP