And as humans tend to do, we of the here and now, have transformed what they were fighting against then, into the evils of the world as it relates to us today; and what they were fighting for, our idea of the best of what we would die for now.

Well said , sir. Perhaps you should stand for congress (don't think you would get many votes in the North, best stick to Dixie.) Never-the-less, doing the math as Paul suggested, it would seem from what Carolyn brought up the figure of 200,000 white southerners fighting for the North would not be unreasonable. Now 200,000 men could leave a lot of descendants in five generations don't you think?

Chase.