Thanks for the info John. It is hard to be unbiased for me and I suppose has for others has well for example has a child I was told that John Brown ( I forgot who it was I think it was at elementry school) was a great and noble man who tried to free the slaves. I agree was what your saying that to parphrase you (hopefully correctly) that the irregular conflict in Mo and Kan during the civil war was the perfect storm between people who had fierce ideologigical differences and while virtitually all the combatants were White Christians they had different cultural background mixed in with inept federal and CSA policies that made things worse.

Leonard