Jim

You are certainly entitled to your opinion; I fail to see why I should have to agree with you or Kevin.

Are you telling us you think the only reason for secession was slavery? I agree it was an issue but not the only issue as others try to make it.
You know some of those 11 or 13 states didn't leave the union until the shooting started, that being the case I would say it was the invasion of a free country that started the war. I believe they saw the abuse of the constitution and made their effort to defend it. Fact still remains slavery was legal and so was secession. State rights were the issue, regardless if it was owning a slave or setting the speed limit on a state highway at 55 or 75. Remember that? I still maintain my view the war was not over slavery and any argument to that effect is just a strawmans argument to justify the war and the events that took place during the war

J. P. Morgan, said : “I supported President Lincoln. I believed his war policy would be the only to save the country, but I see my mistake. I visited Washington a few weeks ago, and I saw the corruption of the present administration — and so long as Abraham Lincoln and his Cabinet are in power, so long will war continue. And for what? For the preservation of the Constitution and the Union? No, but for the sake of politicians and government contractors.

A TRUE ESTIMATE OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN

& Vindication of the South, by Mildred Lewis Rutherford,

Newspaper Correspondent;
AL-07, Ch 7, Pg. 57 thru 60

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This Was a fine speech. See what Lincoln said, and then see what Lincoln did. How could he be trusted? There are ten distinct violations of the Constitution by Abraham Lincoln:

Coercion in 1861, Article IV.

Laws of Neutrality—Trent Affair. Article VI, Clause 2—Violation of international Law.

Writ of Habeas corpus Suspended. Article I, Section IX, Clause 2.

War Declared Without the Consent of Congress, 1861. Article I, Section VIII, Clause 11, 12.

Emancipation Proclamation. Article IV, Section III, Clause 2.

West Virginia Made a (slave)State. Article IV, Section III, Clause 1.

Freedom of speech denied. Vallandigham Imprisoned in Ohio. Amendment One.

Blockading Ports of States that Were held by the Federal Government to be still in the Union.

Liberty of the Press Denied. Amendment One.

Violation of the Fugitive Slave Law. Article IV, Section II, Clause 3.

A TRUE ESTIMATE OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN
& Vindication of the South, by Mildred Lewis Rutherford,
AL-01, Ch 1, Pg. 15 thru 20

This entire series is posted to the SHAPE website. I invite you to look at it and also "The Gray Book" Series I think you will find some very interseting info in each.

GP