Well said, Commander. I would have been proud to serve under you. I only met two Naval Officers I could not abide; one was the Captain of the USS Fort Snelling, LSD 30, off Spain in 1966. He did not like my being on his ship in civilian clothing, though my orders so specified. In those days when hijacking was prevelant, we in Combat Camera Groups wore civvies and traveled on civiian passports. Made him no nevermind. The other was Lcdr. Lyndon Baines Johnson, then serving as Vice President of the United States, when I was a First Class Petty Officer, in uniform,at the dedication of a statue of Adm. Byrd, at the entrance to Arlington. I saluted him, and he did not bother to return it. Later, on the few occaisions I saluted President Kennedy, he did. Stan