When someone on the net asks me, "Where are you from?" or "Where do you live?", I inevitably answer, "Texas" or "I'm a Texan". And that's actually how I think of myself, not as an American, but a Texan. It's not that I'm not proud to be an American; I am. It's just that I see myself as a belonging to and having my roots in ... Texas. It also wouldn't surprise me a bit to see that such a thing offends the socks off some of my fellow citizens in the U.S.A. It seems to me that The General felt the same way about Virginia. Now I just have to go read this thread! Interesting questions, Jim.